A couple of Pandemonium questions (Not gameplay related)

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Hey, I heard a couple of tidbits of information regarding Pandemonium and Zig-Zag, and I wanted to get some confirmation if possible.

First, I heard that Pandemonium was actually based off of another song (and it wasn't Max 300). Is this true; and if so, what was the song?

Second, I keep hearing various arguments as to whether Zig-Zag is Kyle Ward or not. Does anyone here know for certain?

Thanks.
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Spork · Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 1:43 am Post subject:

Sorry "O", ZigZag isn;t Kyle.

On the other hand, I know that Pandemonium is a remix of INdulgence by KaW, but I don;t know anythign else.
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Hands R' Us · Trick Member Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Location: Mars

ZiGZaG is Andy, a friend of Kyle. And yes, Pandemonium is a remix of Indulgence by Kyle. Another ZigZag song, Energizer, is based off of MAX 300 (and a ripoff of a song by DM Ashura).
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IHYD.Blake · Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:02 pm Post subject:

neomax?
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Tyrgannus · Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:03 pm Post subject:

Well, then this "Andy" has a liking for abslolute noise. The only song written by ZiGZaG that is decent is Energizer. The rest aren't terrible, but they're not really....music even....

Of course, if you're good at the game, you're basically forced to play some ZiG ZaG seeing as he wrote 2/3 of the 13's and 1/5 of the 12's.
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Hands R' Us · Trick Member Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Location: Mars

You will also notice that Andy has a knack for fast songs. The only exception is Energizer because the actual song is 151.5 bpm. The stepcharts double the speed, giving the song a "fast" impression to fit in with his other songs.
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Tyrgannus · Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject:

Same thing with the Max's in DDR. If you have a bass drum only on 1 and 3, it's a good clue that song really isn't the speed it says. I'm sorry, but the song is Max 150 musically.

Oh, and while Andy's music may lack in melody, I will admit that they compensate in overall drive. I feel pumped during a lot of his stuff (though Bloodrush and Monolith pump me up the most)
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Hands R' Us · Trick Member Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Location: Mars

Affinity and Tekno Dred are not Andy, but OK. Energizer, Wanna Do, Robotix, or any hardhouse song for that matter, always pump me up.
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Ryyudo -YHB- · Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject:

Quick note: The DM Ashura song he "ripped-off" was Z
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VxJasonxV · Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:33 am Post subject:

Da Bar · Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:37 am Post subject:

naoki is ZiGZaG.
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AdvanceWarsAddict · Trick Member Joined: 20 Jan 2006

Can someone post an mp3 of Indulgence? Thanks.

Kinda figured Energizer was a ripoff from MAX 300. Sounded too similar to be...well...dissimilar.

Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject:

I don't think we can post a link to the mp3 of the song.
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AFAD · Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject:

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Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject:

WOOOSH.
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Da Bar · Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 4:36 am Post subject:

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Seriously, there's no way that Naoki could publish his songs on ITG, especially if Konami is suing Roxor for using their arcade cabs for ITG. That's why you will never see any MaxX remixes on ITG or VerTex remixes on DDR.
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