Should ITG3 have a 14?

J. S. Mill · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:29 am Post subject: Should ITG3 have a 14?

Simple enough question, should ITG3 AC have an Expert 14 in it? Answer for whatever your relevant mode is (if you play doubles primarily, answer for doubles; if you play singles primarily answer for singles; if you play marathon primarily you already have one).
_________________

Ryyudo -YHB- · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:54 am Post subject:

We need it, as scary as it may be, it needs to be there, so people still have a reason to continue reaching for something to beat.

Heck, I even say two new 14s!

Oh man, Vertex ^3?!

Pandygizer!?
_________________

Need an attorney? Call Ryyudo, the Iron Foot. I step on arrows, and I'm not afraid to step on judges.
"Ryyudo Shinomoni: Stepping on arrows since '03, and stepping on judges since '98"

Synaesthesia · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:04 am Post subject:

The only thing I wouldn't want about harder difficulties would be charts becoming hard just for the sake of being hard, like Emirzian runs on a 250 BPM song with 1/16 notes, for example. That said, I can't actually play above the 11 difficulty, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
_________________

im a lasagna whale

G_G

ThePandemonium · Trick Member Joined: 05 Jul 2005

I think they should go up to 14 or higher, I can't do them but I sure as hell love watching people doing them.
_________________

Nintendo Wii Friend Code- 0484-4722-2393-6025
Nickname- Moz

XMaxX · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:12 pm Post subject:

I think they should have at least one 14 block to keep up with player skill.
_________________

Groovestats l ITG Edits l My Simfiles l PUI Ranking
Dancing games are for fags.

Kaku · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Location: Surrey, BC

Adding two 13's kept up with player's skill for ITG 2 (somewhat)
just add like 3-4 more 13's that are harder (i.e. makes VerTex^2 look like Delirium in terms of 12s).

In ITG 1 I believe there were 5 12's and 1 13, so they should at least make a couple more harder 13's in ITG3 before making a 14.
_________________

http://www.groovestats.com/index.php?page=profile&id=1614

Emptyeye · Trick Member Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Location: Waterbury, CT

(Note: I'm in the 9-10 foot range, so take anything I say with a huge bleeping shaker of salt)

From the brief bits of charts like Pandemonium I've seen, I don't know how much more "keeping up with player skill" there's going to be before we start crossing over into the realm of the impossible, or more likely, the "hard for the sake of being hard" at which point a fun, coherent stepchart is abandoned in favor of "put as many arrows in as short a space as possible" for the sake of trying to come up with something that can't be passed. I've heard a story about how one of ITG 2's songs was actually supposed to be a 14 but was toned down after no one could pass it in testing; is this actually true or what?

XMaxX · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject:

Jedo · Trick Member Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Location: NYC

I see no reason for a 14 footer when there are only three 13 footers. I say more 12 and 13 footers and I'll be happy.

The 13 footers won't make any difference to me, since I'm not that good, i can do 11 footers and I'm pretty close to passing Delerium and Vertex.
_________________

At midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew, go to round up everyone who knows more than they do

PÄÅÄ¡Å©Ä«Åâ¢ â¶â · Trick Member Joined: 14 Jul 2005

We need things harder than 14

14s for people like Starman would be too easy

We need to test peoples skill/stamina

Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject:

I think that we should definitely have a 14. It'd allow players to keep getting stronger and better at the game so that the game can keep up with the players.

In addition, however, I believe that there should be more songs that are 13s as well.

I definitely don't want songs created just to be hard though. Something like Summer would be great. The hard steps are a fun 9 and the expert has the 13 that people like. It's also a good song as well.
_________________

"I am about to take my last voyage, a great leap in the dark."

| Pics | Play-Asia |

Tyrgannus · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject:

I am 100% for the introduction of 14s......HOWEVER.....I don't want them on ITG3 because we only have 3 13's right now. We should flesh out the 13 range with 2 or 3 more 13s and THEN add a 14 on ITG4.

Actually, because I like 5-based numbers so much, I want ITG eventually to make one and only one 15 several mixes down the road just to say to its fans "I bet you can't". By then we'll have like 15 13's and around 4 or 15 14s. As long as we keep getting harder, at least some of us will get better enough to keep up. Well, to a certain extent, no one can do 1/24th runs at 175BPM for 8 measures and no one will
_________________

AA Bob wrote:

Summer is as much of a 12 as PSMO is a 9.

Reverend SODA · Basic Member Joined: 12 Jan 2006

I think we should add more hard 13s in ITG3 and hold the 14s off until ITG4.

DemonHybrid · Trick Member Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Location: Matamoras, PA

Yes, but ONLY one. Two or more would be ridiculous, when ITG3 comes out we should have:

4 or 5 13's (Pandy, Summer, ^2, 2 others)
1 14 (Something insane.)

Having 3 or 4 14's would be nauseating and not really fun to play.
_________________

Marq(uistadorous) · Trick Member Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Location: Arvada, CO

Ohh... man that would be terrifing...but just amazing...

_________________

Marq(uistadorous) · Trick Member Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Location: Arvada, CO

Paranoia_Brother · Trick Member Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Location: Clarkston, MI

DAF · Trick Member Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: In CP

I can't vote for some reason...

Either way, I'd like a 14 block song, but that brings another question to mind. Why would it be a 14? The 13's we have now are 13's because of stamina (pandemonium), speed (summer), and vertex 2 (technicality). So if we got a 14, what would make it a 14 specifically? Would it be insane stamina wise (160 bpm 16ths, but 1000+ steps), fast runs (200 bpm but with some long runs), or really technically difficult (...lol not sure for this one...look at vertex 2 and let your imagination run wild)?

Oh btw I can past most 12's and summer, but that's about it.
_________________

Drink up baby, stay up all night
With the things you could do
You won't but you might
The potential you'll be that you'll never see
The promises you'll only make

djzmudpony · Trick Member Joined: 11 Nov 2003 Location: Edison, NJ

Although I personally can only play up to 11's, I think there should be a 14 block song. There are players out there who like push the envelope. This in turn causes the other players to proportionately increase their skills, in an effort to strive to play the harder songs. This, I believe, is a positive thing for the community.
_________________

Sadly, I have no cool signature to back up my dope username.

AFAD · Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:10 am Post subject:

most definitely, i mean look at how quickly summer got 99ed after the release of itg2. I would picture the new 14/s to have a 200 bpm stream, something resembling summer and 16th jumps resmembling remember december on stomp ^ ^
_________________

Recall
My journal
My Space
Groovestats