Stream. Ahhh.

orb · Trick Member Joined: 20 Nov 2002

Well, stream is a problem. Sometimes. Mainly in songs like Delirium. Are there any techniques for actually being able to pass those insanely long stream runs?.. without the bar, my legs give in and I think with the bar it wouldn't be much different.

anyone else struggling with stream? :/

FKK.Carrot · Trick Member Joined: 07 May 2005

Sometimes after like 3 hours of playing I usually don't attempt those kind of streams. but it depends, I find that the bar helps with those long runs. If you put your weight on the bar. Also what would help is like in Delirum, I don't know if this is possible to double step (On my first attempt I tried that

) But don't, because it takes more energy.
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PKMN.YnoT · Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:41 pm Post subject:

I'm not good at those myself (but getting better slowly and surely)... so all I can give are the typical answers:
1) Keep practicing (maybe try songs with similar runs that are not as long as Delirium's ... like Utopia... or maybe like Walking on Fire to build stamina or something)
2) Use speed mods appropriately so reading is not the thing that is screwing you up.
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J. S. Mill · Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:16 am Post subject:

I agree with the poster above, practice and technique are the key.
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Rancidfish · Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:59 am Post subject:

If you can, practice with similar, but slower, songs. For example, play Fleadh Uncut or Energizer on ITG2. Those both have fairly long streams but at a significantly slower speed. If you don't have access to ITG2, try PARANOiA Survivor on DDR, or The Beginning on ITG1, though those have turning, which mixes things up quite a bit.

And above all, just keep at it. For Delirium, I didn't manage to pass the song until I got past one main problem: It's hard to move your feet that fast for that long. If you can't move your foot all the way to the next arrow, ignore it and step anyway. Whether you're hitting the correct arrows or not, just keep stepping. That will keep you onbeat, which will help you a lot more than the missed arrows will hurt.

So just keep practicing, any way you can.
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b-aki · Trick Member Joined: 30 Nov 2002

- check out the stepcharts and/or play it a lot in stepmania. find areas where you can light-step (like jackhammers or whatever you call LDLDLD) and get familiar with the steps.
- for stamina issue, dont waste your energy in the beginning of the song. if youre tired during the runs, exhale deeply through your mouth.
- before you start, stretch out and make sure you dont play any other songs thatll tire you out, but make sure you're warmed up.
- push yourself. though you may say to yourself during the runs, "i cant go any further" and step off, dont. eventually, it will pay off.
- for some reason it helps me: while your bar raping, at the last stream, squeeze the bar as hard as you can.
- if you use the tip of your toes, squat down a bit. it'll give you more accuracy and lighten up the weight on your legs
- if you play on itg 2, pay attention to the timing and pay attention to the dashes.
- add steps. play "the game" expert or even "bubble dancer" and highlight every option for "insert tap." i think theres around 500-700 steps for that song and surprisingly, delirium has only about 600. though you will be disqualified for ranking, it will improve your stamina.

hope this helps because im not good at giving advices. im just trying to tell you what i do/did and i FCed this song.

orb · Trick Member Joined: 20 Nov 2002

thanks for the tips guys!

what about if you can't use the bar? that is.. when you're playing at home and there's no bar >_<..

J. S. Mill · Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:17 pm Post subject:

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VxJasonxV · Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:34 am Post subject:

Anything changing the chart more than just how it's viewed disqualifies you.
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Except for Simple. As if that really has any effect though

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KILLJOY · Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:18 pm Post subject:

i find that if i print the stepchart and then play the song on a pad at my own pace without the music or game it realy makes me better at those songs.
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J. S. Mill · Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:04 am Post subject:

To elaborate on what I tried to say, but probably failed at communicating, earlier: if you want to hit stream at home, practice it with the bar (and probably easier stuff) in the arcade. The skill from Arcade to Home translates, but not, it seems, visa versa. And all the tournament action is at the arcade anyway

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Marq(uistadorous) · Trick Member Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Location: Arvada, CO

Thanx alot!!!! Those tips really helped me! But what r insert taps or whatever?
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Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:05 pm Post subject:

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Thomas Hobbes · Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:29 pm Post subject:

Haha, yeah; I forgot to mention that too. Also, added taps using that mod show up sort of white, so you know which were added.
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