where to find mp3s

Orion Star · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 9:04 am Post subject:

I think bands are too paranoid cause people make their own cds with mp3s no harm in that thought i mean sometimes people listen to mp3's to verify if the music is good or not before they buy the cd's but if it sucks why waste money.
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Doctor Crayfish · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 12:31 pm Post subject:

krikkit · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: Champaign, IL

Sales have(okay, as of 2000, when I still read the sales sheets, hehe) been going up, something like 10% a year.
Proponents of the RIAA say that, despite the fact that they are making more revenue, that the revenue increase was affected by the illegal mp3 trade, and that they are losing money by not making as much as they would if MP3s didnt exist.
Only in America, I tell ya.

Kage · Trick Member Joined: 19 Mar 2002

Know wat, I think sales of CD's would actually INCREASE IF THE SLASHED THE PRICE BY HALF!!

$6 would be just fine with me...and dont even get me started on videogames...$50 for one stupid (ok, so they are really good) disc...

shadow_beat · Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2002 2:10 am Post subject:

I for one have loads of mp3's.. but you'll also notice I have the original CD's as well.. The primary reason I even have mp3's is as a compressed backup.. I have on few occasions burned from mp3's to replace highly damaged CD that I have.. But rarely have I downloaded mp3's... the only reason I ripped my CD's is so I'm not eating 30 gigs of hard drive and I don't burn 50 or so discs of direct copy CD's... I simply do not want to have to rehunt and pay for again what I have paid in full (And sometimes more... damn S&H oh well) for... the only times I ever downloaded anything was to listen to new things.. if I like the song.. I delete it and buy the CD.. if not I send that crap of an mp3 to file heaven... I see mp3's used for 3 reasons,

1. To sample a given CD (2 or 3 songs, not an entire CD)
2. TO make a compressed back up of your legally owned and payed for CD's
3. TO compress a CD collection to listen to on an Mp3 cd player or mp3 player.

And as far as roms go.. well I have my own personal opinion on that.. I feel games that have fallen out of the retail market and no longer make money for the said company (I highly doubt Atari is still making money off of Dig DUg...) are somewhat ok to emulate (Unless you can find the actual version of course) but games still in the retail market (Wholesale and Retail sale, used games bought from a small store hardly profit the game companies) should NOT be emulated in any way... I find it crap that some people won't buy dreamcast games.. even now when they cost 5-10 to get, people still get burnt copies... damn a-holes... Games cost as much as they do and all these disc protection systems are caused by people hacking and burning games... I'm pretty sure if people who spend their time figuring out how to play copied games spent their time instead trying to develop programs or product to play legitament imports, then maybe games and systems would not cost as much..
Whats even worse is people who use this excuse for pirating..
"Well, it's competition, they have to compete with the really low price of burning so they should be lowering their price to compete!"
Oh dear god did I wanna reach through the modem and beat him..
Bottom Line is this.. NOTHING that is produces or developed is free.. even if you download a "free" mp3 or rom.. somebody else, namely the developer has to pay for it.. Just buy the damn CD and get it over with... you spend 100 dollars on shoes for cripes sakes.. just spend 12-20 for a CD... and remeber, places do offer trade in for those who are broke... you havent listened to that spice girl CD that you deny to have for over 2 years now.. let it go.. it can get you 1/5 - 1/2 of what you need for a new CD..
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Spike · Administrator Joined: 17 Jan 2002 Location: Denver

I truly doubt that will happen

As far as I know, DDR mp3's aren't on either site. They may be on www.cdnow.com, but you'd still have to pay.
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B*Real · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: Plano,TX

It still didn't matter, as long as you give a webpage that may have DDR MP3's.
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temporaryspastic · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: San Jose, CA

once again, cdnow.com wont have ddr mp3s....
it sells some dancemania CDs though..he hee...

BPN Dance Master · Trick Member Joined: 09 Feb 2002 Location: Iselin, NJ

There is a lot of talk around about mp3's and what is legal and not. It is very confusing and doesn;t go anywhere to waht I believe. Nowadays there are millions of places you can find mp3's. You can find them almost everywhere.

MackDaddy · Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2002 11:25 pm Post subject:

krikkit · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: Champaign, IL

Everybody says that there is a way "I see it" which somehow protects them from the fact that it is against the law...until the police come a knocking.

Note, I don't say "wrong", only "against the law" as these debates tend to always always degrade into "well, I think it should be okay because blahblah" not the point. The goal is to understand the law, combat it if you must, break it if you like, but always understand precisely what you are getting into.
Ignorance of the law does not excuse someone from repercussions when they break it, so don't bother rationalizing or justifying. We do it because we can get something for nothing, and we love that concept.

shadow_beat · Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 3:02 am Post subject:

krikkit · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: Champaign, IL

Everything you said was correct, except I would just like to point out that most recording artists(the actualy people who sing and play the instruments, not the manager/producer whatever) makes between 15 and 17 cents per unit sold.
And the vast majority of all money in the music industry is made on tour. CD sales are almost nothing.

iidx-Nick · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

Soo...*whistles innocently* would I get burned if I posted a site that had all DDR/Bemani Mp3's? BUT...this is the catch people...IT IS NOT ILLEGAL WITH BEMANI.

I was talking to someone...I forgot but he said he e-mailed Konami asking if he could post up some Bemani Mp3's for friends and such. Well they said 'no prob' so I'm guessing it's not illegal.

If Konami says cool, then if you don't already have this link (Most EVERYONE has been there) then I'll post it up.

ZING!

Fit two and two together.

MOD: Spelling errors.

Edit (Cutriss): Zing yourself.

Captin Jack · Trick Member Joined: 10 Mar 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA

so, where were the mp3's again?

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krikkit · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: Champaign, IL

So you asked Konami and they said it was okay, huh?
How about Carl Douglas, Chumbawamba, Roxette, and all the other artists who specifically licensed their music to Konami for exclusive use in the Bemani games? Did you contact them and ask them if you could post their tunes? After all, it was in a Bemani game, so therefore it is somehow Konami's music, right?
Sorry, until you have a copy of an email straight from Konami's legal department, I wouldn't think too well of the friend of a friend's 'official word'.

iidx-Nick · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

krikkit · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: Champaign, IL

I'm sure he's a great and trustworthy soul, but it doesn't get official license. Or maybe it does, I don't know. Maybe he's got official permission from all those artists tucked away in his inbox.