Should ITG3 have a 14?

[Ryyudo -YHB-]

[Synaesthesia]

Eggman's OML [a] chart seems like it would be a 14 on foot.
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[Rainault]

I agree with some of the people here; I don't think ITG is ready for 14s yet. Seriously, there are only 3 13s, and you people think you're ready for a 14? We don't even know exactly what a 13 is; as far as we know, a 13 is anything harder than a 12. There isn't anything about the 13 difficulty that defines it other than this. This is why I agree that we need several more 13s before we can decide whether or not a 14 difficulty song is appropriate yet, so I don't think ITG3 should have a difficulty higher than 13. In the future, maybe, but not just yet.

[Asymptote]

Making a 14 already is just jumping the gun. I agree that one eventually wouldn't be a bad idea to keep up with people's skill level but seriously, who actually finds Vertex^2 easy yet? The best players in the world average in the 80's for it, and the recorded record is a mere 94.... there are only 3 13's, flesh the rating out more.... let people get GOOD scores on it... hell, we see 99+ scores on almost anything, so a 90 or even a 94 isn't really considered GREAT anymore by top tier standards... and the top tier players in the world have such scores. it's got a rediculous DXY! step jump stream at 380 bpm with a 1x speed of 555, which I don't even think is possible to actually combo unless you just flail around and vibrate madly and hope you're seriously lucky and hit it.... who's comboed the song by the way? I thought that comboing a song wasn't really an achievement anyway, especially for the best in the world.

Thing is, I'm not even arguing against harder songs, but jesus, I don't see why we have to create a whole new difficulty that would really only cater to a rediculously small percent of players, especially when Vertex^2 already does. Just keep making 13's for now I say. So Summer has been 99'ed? Big deal, make harder 13's. There's only 3. Making a 14 would just increase the "hard for the sake of hard" and "don't care about other difficulties, I only must play the hardest" type of attitudes, and with only 3 13's made before jumping to 14, that would certainly support them.
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[Lobster Jesus]

I personally think it should go up to 15, just to stay even and to give players a challenge that will last awhile.
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[DJ 大阪]

This is going to sound strange.

I think there should be either:

A. More 13s. As long as they are hard for the music and not just hard for the steps; in my opinion, Pandemonium EX has way too many arrows. The first time I heard it, I thought it had easier steps than what I heard out of Euphoria before. Then I look at it, and it has a super-long stream at the beginning that doesn't follow the music at all.

Vertex^2 has better steps compared to Pandemonium; at the least they follow the music somewhat, but it still seems like gibberish to me.

Summer, IMO, is the only true 13, because its steps really follow the music note by note.

B. A 14 included as an extra stage (sort of like ES or OMES) for FCing an Expert song or something like that.

To summarize, I think that considering the 2 "only hard because of the steps" 13s out of the only 3, I think that ITG3 needs to have 13s with better steps before taking the idea of a 14 level song into consideration.
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[Marq(uistadorous)]

[DJ 大阪]

[CHUCK BASS]

I'm thinking for a 14.

1065 steps....

343 hands.

Yeaaahhhhhhh.

[Shippo]

we probably should have...

[milinko959]

Absolutely, however, there should still be a good amount of 13's, 12's and 11's.

[0rion]

I actually think 13 should be the capper in terms of difficulty for the simple reason that the number is anathema to a lot of people. I mean, 13 is just a well-known "evil" number, you know?
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[milinko959]

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[Fattoxthegreat]

I say nay, there's no reason to increase the blockage to 14. I gurantee you there are but 100 people in the world (the people you say need to have an ever increasing challenge) who would look at V2, Pandy, and Summer, and go, "yeah well screw that, I can *** that 99 times out of 100 with my love cylinder", when the majority of ITG players are all like "OMG, this feces goes up to eleven" then going back to playing on medium and hard, and being content. A 14 would just widen the gap between the pros and the noobs, which is what this game is not about.

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[Synaesthesia]

To be honest, I don't care how high the absolute highest difficulty tier is, so long as the ones below it are sufficiently fleshed out. That's what I like about ITG--there are enough charts in the 9 through 11 range that advancing to the next difficulty level is easy (say, by the time you can do well on all the 9s, there's definitely more than one 10 that you can do reasonably well on). They can make a 15 for all I care, so long as the 12-14 range is developed enough.
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[gay dentist]

I can see it now--

ITG3! Now with 17 1/2 footers!

Even has a life support machine attached to the side!!

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[Kaku]

There are way too many 10's and not enough 11/12/13's.

They should populate the 11/12/13 list first =\
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