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0. PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Pop'n ASC market? Reply with quote

Are Pop'n music ASCs rare in the market and does it have high demand? I could make some ASCs and sell them, not on a wide scale which I crank out a factory, but seemingly how it is relatively easy to make for me, I could make like 20 and sell them.

By the way, since my budget is limited as I am 14, If I ever start I would be able to make only 1 to 2 at a time, since the buttons are quite expensive.

This is the cheapest buttonset I could find

http://www.happcontrols.com/pushbuttons/954002xxxxz.htm

Would it be a reasonable price to sell them at the cost of making one plus 25% of the cost of making one plus shipping? That would enable me to:

Lets say it costs me 100 dollars to build an ASC:

Budget: $250

I make one for myself (And practice): $150
I make one to sell: $50
I sell it: $175
I make another to sell: $75
I sell it: $200
I make another one to sell: $100
I sell it: $225
I make another one to sell: $125
I sell it: $250 (I am back to my original budget)
I make another one to sell: $150
I sell it: $275 $25 PROFIT!

Assume shipping for a product is around 25 dollars, it would be $150 for an ASC, is this a good price?

The worst thing is... Ive never played Pop'n music, but I want to and the only thing thats holding me back is the price and I don't have a japanese PS2.

I could manufacture craploads of boxes and short out lots of controllers. Do PS1 controllers work? The buttons are what will cost alot, its like 81 dollars for buttons w/o shipping.
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1. PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BRUV you gotta play POP'n before you get the idea of makin n sellin ASC's surely..Then you'll know how to add touches etc to make it more playable n enjoyable.

And about the market being small, all bemani games are pretty niche so you gotta find the right target to advertise, i guess this site would be pretty suitable.

Im sure you can be successful althou you'll find some rivals already who are known, such as the DjDao Pop n ASC controller which is reasonably priced and apparently very good. -->



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2. PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DumpsterKeeper makes them as well as IIDX ASCs for a decent price (DesktopArcade), then there are Dj DAO and I've seen a few other brands. You should know already, but Happ buttons are the ones the official controllers use, so you're in good shape with those. If you want to go homebrew, I can scan you my DT100 pushbutton design (yeah, lol, turns out my very first design, the one I put away in the closet for two years, makes a pretty decent $2 homebrew pushbutton) or you can come up with your own thing.

It's basically just a box with buttons, like every other controller. Shouldn't be hard for you to make.
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3. PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Happ it is? Great, I don't have to order these expensive german ones!
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4. PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you're willing to make me one, i'd pay $150 this fall for one. i've been wanting to get into pop'n music for ages and i think this year for my birthday i finally am going to.
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5. PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't make any promises yet, I haven't even made myself a controller, my dad is the "middleman" in getting me parts to make these, and i've never played pop'n.

I hope I'd be able to.
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6. PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thought i'd jump in here too..i made a popn asc also, actually, its in the corner of my room since i broke my ps2 and couldnt play jap games..

but anyway, i got my buttons from happ, and it was like $120 with shipping if i remember right, but man, they are so cool!
once i played popn at planet zero, i knew i had to make a controller, so i did, but ive only been able to test it out to make sure it works at a friends house.

i have some pics somewhere, and i think they are on my site www.eventsix.org
that was my base one with a horribly fast done paint job and sanding job, so it doesnt look as good as DJdao or DA's, plus no graphics either (im looking into that)

PS to Daikenkai: if you do decide to make them, and you want to get the 3" hole saw, to make things easier and whatnot: it costs like 20+ bucks!
also, wiring it is a bit tricky if youve never done it before.
last thing, i have a diagram somewhere of the measurements you will need if you do decide to make them
good luck!
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7. PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ransai also makes Pop N ASC

http://www.ransai.com/
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8. PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not anymore

http://www.ransai.com/mall/
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