The SM Timing Window Configurations

Crono · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:14 am Post subject:

A couple of interesting thoughts came to mind:

What about Pump it Up timing windows?

What about DDR home version timing windows? (For the mixes that have laxer timing)

These both strike me as interesting, it would be neat to have them if anybody knew...
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Crono · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:18 am Post subject:

DAVE101 · Trick Member Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: Indiana

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According to Kyle Ward, the timing window for Excellent/perfect is .053000, not .043000!

http://www.kyle-ward.com/faq/in-the-groove/
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HeavyD2 · Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject:

It says 0.43, not 0.53...

Regarding the question, usually if I have 300 greats, I'm great attacking!

And man, why is it that the "official" StepMania timings are a tiny bit larger than ITG's? I thought it was supposed to be a DDR simulation, what with the DDR judgment names "Marvelous", "Perfect", "Good" and "Boo". I've got craploads of AAA's on it and even a few AAAA's, but I have but one single AAA on DDR at the arcade.

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maxx freak · Trick Member Joined: 09 Aug 2005

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Anyone have the timing windows for SuperNOVA2 and/or X yet?

MostlyHarmless- · Trick Member Joined: 16 Dec 2008 Location: New Jersey

OK, I tried the ITG timing, and it's way too tight for my cobalt flux at home

Is there anyone who knows the codes for the ps2 itg version? That would be very helpful!

Rajjab · Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:58 pm Post subject:

i second the ITG timing. I feel that the window is too tight for ITG compared to the arcade. It's a big difference when i i can 99 13s at the arcade and i have trouble 99ing 9s at home

i'm also trying to set my global offset for my openITG to match the tiny delay that i currently have, but i can never have the correct global offset.
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DAVE101 · Trick Member Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: Indiana

The ps2 version uses the exact same windows, except it has this: JudgeWindowAdd=+0.002
And this yields the same results as the arcade.
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MostlyHarmless- · Trick Member Joined: 16 Dec 2008 Location: New Jersey

TimingWindowAdd=0.001500
TimingWindowHopo=0.250000
TimingWindowJump=0.250000
TimingWindowScale=1.000000
TimingWindowSecondsAttack=0.135000
TimingWindowSecondsHold=0.500000
TimingWindowSecondsMine=0.070000
TimingWindowSecondsRoll=0.350000
TimingWindowSecondsW1=0.022500
TimingWindowSecondsW2=0.045000
TimingWindowSecondsW3=0.090000
TimingWindowSecondsW4=0.135000
TimingWindowSecondsW5=0.180000
TimingWindowStrum=0.100000

Could someone explain to me what the in the groove timing windows would be using stepmania 4.0 alpha 4? I see that the 3.9 version is a bit different. I couldn't figure out what some of the other ones are.

DAVE101 · Trick Member Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: Indiana

It's pretty self explanatory, W1 is marvelous, W2 is perfect, etc.
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PrayerWarrior35 · Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject:

[quote="HeavyD2"]It says 0.43, not 0.53...

Regarding the question, usually if I have 300 greats, I'm great [i]attacking![/i]

And man, why is it that the "official" StepMania timings are a tiny bit [i]larger[/i] than [i]ITG's[/i]? I thought it was supposed to be a [i]DDR[/i] simulation, what with the DDR judgment names "Marvelous", "Perfect", "Good" and "Boo". I've got craploads of AAA's on it and even a few [i]AAAA's[/i], but I have but one single AAA on DDR at the arcade.[/quote]

Well StepMania came out way before ITG, and ITG was in fact just a custom SM build so it's obvious why ITG has similar timing windows to SM. As far as the SM vs. DDR I was told it was due to the creators not sure if the accuracy of simfiles would warrant tighter timing windows. As far as ITG vs. DDR, I was told it was due to the increased difficulty which somehow meant the timing wasn't as important, plus Fantastic timing was on by default which was tighter than DDR's Perfect window. Soon after DDR began making Marvelous timing windows a little more common (I believe they were selectable only during courses in some of the older PS2 games).
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