ITG foot ratings to DDR foot ratings

MaxX300 to the MATTimum · Trick Member Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Location: earth

would you give all ITG 10 footers a 10 foot rating on DDR? Seriously, I think that Max 300, and The legend of Max (maybe MaxX Unlimited) would actually be 11's on ITG. PSMO, would be a 11 or 12. Seriously, Utopia is MUCH easier than PSMO, and so is Charlene, the 16ths are slower than the eights on PSMO. What do you think? Sakura and Bag are still 10s, maybe 9's, (sakura) PS heavy, is probably a 10. Seriously, should DDR give REAL 10s and Put Max's and PSMO 11's? REAL 11's...not flashing tens like PSMO LoM and Max. (period)?
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Barbaloot · Trick Member Joined: 31 May 2005

Max 300 would be a 10 on ITG. There's no way it deserves to be an 11. The same goes for Paranoia Survivor.

MaxX Unlimited and The Legend of Max would probably be hard 10s. If Tension and Disconnected Hyper are 10s, making these 11s would be a stretch.

PSMO is like a harder version of The Beginning. It would probably be a middle to hard 11.

Bag on ITG would be synched correctly and would be a 9.

Sakura would be a 9. The ITG 9s are full of 16th runs much longer than Sakura's 8th spurts.

As for ITG 10s, all of them would probably be 10s on DDR as well. Hand of Time and My Favourite Game could pass as 9s, and one could argue for Tribal Style or Kagami being 9s as well.
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Asymptote · Trick Member Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Location: Alloway, NY

IMO, and including as many as I know:

Max 300 - 10
The Legend of Max - 11
MaxX Unlimited - 11
Paranoia Survivor - 10
PSM - hard 10
PSMO - hard 11
Max.(Period) - 12 (If Vertex is a 12, I think this could be one, even though I think personally PSMO is a bit harder, its kinda like Vertex to Pande hard, easy 12 or hard 11, either way)
Max 300 SMM - 11
Sakura - 9
Bag - N/A, it's a gimmick
G2 - 9
Giudecca - 10 (the most ITG-like 10 in DDR)
Outer Limits - 10
Mad Blast - 9
250 Bpm - 10
Cartoon Heroes - 12

I think that about does it, except the Supernova 10's, I haven't played any of them.
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Zeldy2 · Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject:

MaxX300 to the MATTimum · Trick Member Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Location: earth

cartoon heroes would be a ten, its easy
Fascination Max is a 12 or 11
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ihcw.stefank687 · Trick Member Joined: 16 Jun 2005

Max 300 - easy 10
The Legend of Max - easy 10
MaxX Unlimited - hard 10
Paranoia Survivor - 10
PSM - medium 10
PSMO - medium 11
Max.(Period) - 11
Sakura - 9
Bag - 9
in DDR)
Cartoon Heroes - 9...seriously

My opinion...

MaxX300 to the MATTimum · Trick Member Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Location: earth

yeah, but CH is harder than most nines, probably even Sakura, so HARD 9
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ihcw.stefank687 · Trick Member Joined: 16 Jun 2005

I was just thinking about that... im looking at the ITG9's right now... songs that seem on par with CH in difficulty that are 9's are.... disconnected, on a day like today... maybe wake up and my life is so crazy? So it can be a 9 still, its no way near on par with poopy like soapy bubble in difficulty so its not an 11

Asymptote · Trick Member Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Location: Alloway, NY

wow... just... wow
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MaxX300 to the MATTimum · Trick Member Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Location: earth

why wow?
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject:

Because he's underrating Cruton Homos. It's clearly a 17.
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Tyrgannus · Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject:

You guys have to take into consideration the different lengths of songs. If MaxX Unlimited were 20 second longer, it would definitely earn the ranking of 11 due to the increased stamina issue, unfortunately it is much shorter than the ITG songs and is thus difficult to rank to the ITG scoring system. Some songs however are similar in design such as Monolith and FAXX. Both songs are around 200 with 16th drills and step jumps strewn throughout. If Monolith is a hard 11, why wouldn't FAXX be an 11 as well? You could argue reading difficulty such as Vertex, but it's not THAT hard to read. Max. on the other hand is very similar to Vertex's structure, however since Max. lacks stupid drills, minefields, and has less stamina drain, I would comfortably put it as an 11 because of readability and NOT and to some extent difficulty such as the last stream. PSMO is like Mythology, so that should be an 11. Max300 SMMM is a controversial one to place at either 10 or 11, but at the end of the day it should remain a hard 10 so that it wouldn't dumb down the ITG 11 rating.

But in all honesty, and if it was as long as other ITG songs, HVAM would actually be a 10. Look at the Bouff or Hybrid charts (Moreso Bouff). Mostly 8ths. HVAM is guess what, mostly 8ths at a very similar speed. If the double-step stream at the end were 20 seconds longer it would definitely fit in the realm of ITG 10, but for now it stays as a hard ITG9.
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IHYD.Blake · Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject:

Healing Vision, also, does not have 16th notes. It is also shorter than the Machinae (sp?) songs. And there are not crossovers like there are in the end of bouff.

Healing Vision is a 9 on DDR and would not be changed in ITG. If anything, it would be downgraded.
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IHYD.Blake · Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:22 am Post subject:

Lol neither of those 4 songs mentioned in the last sentences in the quote would pass as 9s on DDR.
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DJBon2112 · Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:26 am Post subject:

#Infinity · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: San Diego, CA

Max 300 = 10
Maxx Unlimited = 11
The Legend of Max = 10
PARANOiA Survivor = 10
PARANOiA Survivor MAX = 11
PARANOiA Survivor MAX Oni = 12
bag = 10
Sakura = 9
Max. (Period) Oni = 11
Max. (Period) Heavy = 12
PARANOiA -Respect- = 11
MAD BLAST = 9
Outer Limits = 10
G2 = Easy 10
Max 300 (SMMM) = Hard 10
Max 300 (SMMM) Oni = 11
Fascination MaxX = Hard 12 or 13

Haven't played Giudecca or 250BPM (Jondi & Spesh Mix) yet because I don't own an XBOX.
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:58 pm Post subject:

By the way guys if we're playing TheoryCraft with this, bag on ITG would actually be at its real BPM (130) and would basically lose the 1x-fetish reading challenge which caused Konami to call it 10. Roxor's ratings, for the most part, are based on how hard the song is to actually play/score, so an onsync, correct bag would be a 9.

You guys are all overestimating Faxx's difficulty. It is nowhere fucking close to a 13, or even a 12 for that matter. I will almost certainly pass Faxx the day I play it, and that will be long before being able to pass the average 12s on ITG. I also guarantee you that Faxx will be AAA'd LONG before perhaps even ANY 12 is ****'d.

Nothing on DDR is worth being called more than an 11. If you want to call all sorts of flashing 10s as 11s, that's all well and good by the IIDX method. But they sure don't get above 11.
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Laundry · Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject: