DanceTrax - A New Dance Simulation Game

Phrekwenci · Administrator Joined: 27 Feb 2002 Location: New York, NY

Well, I believe I can tell you the projected price of the DTX cabinet will be considerably less than most other dancing games at launch.
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:06 am Post subject:

I realize this is WAAAY early, but we probably won't see a console port unless there's a reasonable amount of success in the arcade? I ask because I know I didn't have an ITG anywhere near me (and still don't, really), so the PS2 release was really important for me.

RE: Wakka Lakka. Optical sensors aren't anything terribly innovative; several people have built their own pad before. I assume they've housed the sensors very securely and safely. As I understand it, stomping/accidentally hitting the sensors/whatnot is a big problem, as the instruments are rather sensitive. However, I imagine it does produce a more reliable pad than with switches.
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1. I think the music selection is fine. I don't really see how there is some huge variety of music in ITG. ITG1 had a lot of techno/trance, some rock, and some bubblegum pop. A HUGE variety would be eurodance/eurobeat, super eurobeat, country, techno, trance, ballad, rock, classical, pop, bubblegum pop, dance, house, happy hardcore, hardcore, tribal, R&B, rap, etc. I don't think ANY game has done a huge variety. I think that, over the life span of DDR you have seen a lot of types but NO game has given the fans a wide range. Then again, I think that is why you see such fanboy-ism in arrow stomp games. Those that like the fast-pased techno and trance combined with insane steps go with IRG, those that like more mellow charts and more vocal music go with DDR. Neither is bad or good honestly, just a choice. I like the speed stuff from Saifam.

2. I personally don't see how, legally, when Konami has a patent for 4-panel dance games with a specific look to the interface and machine people that produce these rhythm games say there won't be an issue. Granted, I am not a legal scholar but I have taken a few basic patent law classes and it seems to me that both the ITG upgrades and dedicated cabinets don't quite follow the rules. Leave it to the courts, but here is some legal advice: lawyers with commercials and 800 numbers aren't usually the cream of the crop.

Cowman715 · Trick Member Joined: 21 Jan 2003

For some odd reason I'm excited about this game unlike when ITG first came out.

We'll see when it comes out

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DJ Kakarotto · Trick Member Joined: 18 Jul 2003

Let me see we have, in the total tracklist (which is currently around 120)...

Acid, House, Ethnic House, Psychedelic trance, electro house, breakbeat, hard techno, epic techno, hard rock, classical techno, classical trance, um... taka-ish stuff, scumpop, scumrock, ethnic techno, downbeat something, hyper eurobeat, epic drum 'n' bass, video-game music, happy kiddy music, hard techno, yodeling country music, dark ethnic music, happy ethnic music, circus "Elfman"-like music, happy hardcore, vocal happy hardcore, experimental drum n' bass, epic darkcore, darkcore, melodic techno, melodic trance, darude-ish techno, whatever midihead's music is labeled as, classical house, deep house, vocal house, garbage techno, good-cool -esque house, straight up trance, bubblegum pop, "family guy" happy hardcore, rock breakbeat, BIG beat breakbeat, dark trance, epic trance, symphonic techno, swing music, jazz music, beach-house music, lobby music, disco, and straight up techno.

that's just a snippit of the originals list... let me check my licensed list...

happy dance (Barbie Young), hyper eurobeat, speed dance, speed pop cover, speed spanish cover, whatever you would consider Boom Boom Dollar to be, pop techno, R&B, hard hard rock, mainstream hip hop, downbeat bubblegum pop, house, punk, SKA, new age, vocal techno, speed classical techno.

there's more, i just don't what the hell to call them... we have a very diverse tracklist, at least i think so, what do you think? With the samples on the site, I just wanted to make sure almost each original artist got to have a sample. I'll update with maybe... 4 more samples... in the near future, just for you lolinternet
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Uiru · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:47 am Post subject:

Bemani genres are like Doubles step ratings; they exist as a formality, are mostly made up, and are entirely useless.

There are two genres that matter to me: licence, and Naoki. Everything else is details. :D
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DJ Kakarotto · Trick Member Joined: 18 Jul 2003

also to answer some questions since i'm running this project:

We have the advantage of watching what happens between Konami and Roxor while working with this project, so when any changes occur, we'll take the proper measures. And also understand that most of the news you hear about the case IS FROM KONAMI! Biased, maybe? Roxor has a good case on their hands against Konami's patents.

Also let me reiterate how diverse our tracklist is... we have a diverse tracklist.

Someone keeps asking about the theme song (the song on the website). It's called "Rave Until the Night is Over (Euro Mix)" by DM Ashura featuring Jenny (From Spray and Spacekats).

The cabinet will cost less the DDR's cabinet and significantly less than ITG2's cabinet. What can I say... outsourcing saves money. So we will be giving the arcades a REALLY good price.

I will really try updating the community with almost EVERYTHING about this game as they come. When we get final FINAL screenshots of the game, you guys will be the first to see them. When the cabinet arrives in America (January, most likely), we'll show you guys pictures as well as have a launch party (will be bicostal).

Understand, however, unlike another game that was in development, our staff are still college students (couple of high school students). We are incredibly busy with our own lives and try and spend the most time we can on this game. THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL TAKE FOREVER. The reason we OFFICIALLY went public now is because the development is all in a downhill slope from here. THIS GAME IS COMING OUT FAST. We are also looking into a console release (XBOX) but that will only depend if our engineers can manage to port it to the XBOX. And although it is not typical, the port release won't be far after the arcade release. THAT IS STILL UNOFFICIAL!

We have invested THOUSANDS of dollars into this project, correction, Paper2Production has invested thousands of dollars into this project; nearly $10,000 at the moment. Althought that is information you guys don't need to know, I just want to let you guys know that this game WILL BE RELEASED, at the LATEST in Summer. Either way, you guys will play it.

Now, as the public, you guys don't really NEED to know the business aspect of this game. I don't even push to fully know the business aspect of it, Paper 2 Production is handling all of that. However, out of courtesy, I will let you guys know mostly all that I know concerning the legality and whatever. We have a huge team of lawyers with us. Whether they are good or not, I don't know, I just know that they are EXPENSIVE. So please, stop speculating on the legal aspect of this game. Just look at this game as what it is, a game.

And about steps, we have a team of 3 judges from different areas of the US and are all good at critiquing and all have their own taste. ALL THREE OF THEM MUST APPROVE A STEPCHART BEFORE IT IS IN THE GAME. Even though this is a tedious process, it makes sure that all the stepfiles are high quality (fyi: Fans of doubles will NOT be disappointed).

We have been working on this game for over a YEAR, so you can say we take our time on these charts and music, and graphics, and every thing else in this game.

Thank you, Austin
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Well, I'm more interested in this game now than when it was originally announced.

Just, oh I really hope you guys have fun and innovative stepcharts with lots of FS potential! Hopefully some cool modes too, traditional dance is aite and all but some unique modes and such make a huge difference!

By the way, what kind of distribution deals do you guys have with this? As in, how likely will it be that arcades will get this machine (not factoring in the low price)?
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mtwieg · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:29 pm Post subject:

This sounds awesome. The more competition, the better.

My main question is about the optical sensors. Does this mean that there won't be any moving parts in the pad and your foot directly breaks the beam, or will their be a moving panel? Will the dimensions of the pad be the same as ddr and itg (especially the elevation of the non arrow panels)?
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act deft · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:33 pm Post subject:

wow. The staff is pretty awesome.

Arch0wl, K//Eternal, jammitch, and many other, including Phrekwenci.

And talk about that song list. Awesome indeed too.

I'm looking forward to see this in my arcade.

The only thing is that I need to see the pad.
Yeah, I know it's four panels, but still I want to see it.
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Tsuri · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:55 pm Post subject:

noise_tank24 â¶â · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH

You want to see the optical pad? I'll show you an optical pad. Created by one of the guys working on this game:

cnlohr's optical mat released into public domain 1 year ago!

This guy knows his stuff, so the pad will probably look amazing, be durable, and perform like you wouldn't believe.

Cutriss · Staff Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

I haven't read any of the other threads 'round the Internet, so forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere.

Internet Ranking?
USB memory support?
Which gameplay mechanics are being supported? (IE - freezes, freeze rolls, mines, hands, quads, etc)
Gameplay modes? Single/double/versus/attack are all confirmed, I see. Anything else?
Which modifiers are supported?
Is the cabinet itself network-ready? Or are bumper-packs installed via some other purchaseable medium?

The LED thing kinda reminds me of what some Beatmania cabinets do with their neon tubes on the monitor, with blue/red/purple flashes depending on your step rating. I assume the LED lifebar will be way more elaborate than this though.
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject:

Xbox port?? ;___;
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