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ninjafetus
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40.  Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| [ES] FujiFlame wrote: | | ninjafetus wrote: | sorry, but bloodrush is easier than summer, Pandy, and even Tell and HotN (imo)
Why is it that people have so much trouble with songs that require technique instead of flailing (summer)? |
You almost contradict yourself...
...However, I also believe Bloodrush is far easier than the 13's. |
Eh, I was almost out the door and didn't want to write a lot. My beef was with people who could flail their way through something like summer but not have the technique for bloodrush and therefore start discussing why bloodrush should be a 13  So... I'm just saying, "It's easier than 13s, and ALSO 12's, co it CAN'T be a 13!"
I'm not saying Tell doesn't require technique. As far as the HotN goes, I just feel it's more draining, even though it needs less technique. I think that if you have solid technique and crossovers don't bother you, Bloodrush should just be a harder "the Begining." I passed Bloodrush the first game our ITG2 was set up, no problems. But I haven't beaten Summer yet. I don't have the foot speed to do that properly, but my failing percentage is still higher than the passing percentage the local flailers have, and I was still ~100 notes from the end.
Wait what was the topic again? HotN? Fun song. 
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| 41. Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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That song reminds me of Tetris ... but only on speed... lmao
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Marq(uistadorous)
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| 42. Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| Syncognition wrote: | I believe Euphoria should be a 12. I believe bloodrush should be a 13, simply because even though I've passed pandemonium and summer, I can't touch it because of readability. Basically from what I've heard, Bloodrush is a 12 simply because LilQ raped it at ASI. Roxor based the rating of that song on what one playtester said, not their initial judgement. It was a 13 originally, and since I've failed it more times than I failed pandemonium, I believe it's as hard or harder to pass, and deserves a rating of 13.
As far as the caps go, just because it's a statement that you feel needs to be more pronounced doesn't give you the excuse to have poor etiquitte and talk down to everyone who disagrees with you. Even if many people share your opinion, that makes it no more valid, just louder. You do this pretty often actually, and it's rather rude. Perhaps it's not my place to say on this forum, but as a mod of a forum you attend regularly, I figured I'd point it out.
On topic, Hardcore of the North isn't too terribly difficult. It definitely is tiring, having the highest number of steps in ITG, but there are hardly any complex patterns in the song. It's mostly just rhythmically challenging if anything. I passed the song as my 3rd 12, about 3 weeks after we got ITG1 at rocky's back in November of 2004. I believe I got around 80% on it my first pass (which was also my first try), and my record on it is around 90-91 from January of this year. I haven't played it since then, so I'm sure I could 95+ it now. |
You make me feel like I suck...mabey i do. How long have u been playing and how can u pull off songs like that?! Ive been playing DDR for years and when i play itg the best i can do is pass all of the 11s.
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Alezay
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| 43. Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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To the above poster:
Talent >>>>>>>>>>>>> Practice
I started DDR Light Mode last year. I had a natural knack for the game, with alot of stops, but I got around them. Didn't take me long to pass my 1st 12, and from there I went straight uphill.
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Kyrandian
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| 44. Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| LEEROY! (Alezay) wrote: | To the above poster:
Talent >>>>>>>>>>>>> Practice
I started DDR Light Mode last year. I had a natural knack for the game, with alot of stops, but I got around them. Didn't take me long to pass my 1st 12, and from there I went straight uphill. |
Yes "talent" is important, but how can you say it's more important than practuce? Everyone starts somewhere, and without practice no one would be anywhere obviously. Talent and a knack for the game can only take you so far, when you get into the more difficult material what it really comes down to is fitness and determination. You'll see as a general trend that people such as myself who started back in the 4th Mix era, didn't progress nearly as fast as players starting today, because we didn't have as much to work toward. It took me a week to pass 7s, 3 months to pass a 9, and still quite a while for me to pass any 10s when we got Max2 in the area. These days I've heard of people passing easy 10s in their first month with the game.
Progressing at dancing games (or most games in general) is a matter of setting and achieving goals, at least it is for about every player I know. |
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Alezay
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| 45. Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Kyrandian wrote: | | LEEROY! (Alezay) wrote: | To the above poster:
Talent >>>>>>>>>>>>> Practice
I started DDR Light Mode last year. I had a natural knack for the game, with alot of stops, but I got around them. Didn't take me long to pass my 1st 12, and from there I went straight uphill. |
Yes "talent" is important, but how can you say it's more important than practuce? Everyone starts somewhere, and without practice no one would be anywhere obviously. Talent and a knack for the game can only take you so far, when you get into the more difficult material what it really comes down to is fitness and determination. You'll see as a general trend that people such as myself who started back in the 4th Mix era, didn't progress nearly as fast as players starting today, because we didn't have as much to work toward. It took me a week to pass 7s, 3 months to pass a 9, and still quite a while for me to pass any 10s when we got Max2 in the area. These days I've heard of people passing easy 10s in their first month with the game.
Progressing at dancing games (or most games in general) is a matter of setting and achieving goals, at least it is for about every player I know. |
No No No, you got me all wrong. I'm saying that a natural talent + practice will take you farther than just practice. Like, I've seen people who've played since 7th mix and haven't improved almost at all. And that is all on practice. Some people I've seen were really fit, but just didn't have the natural talent for the game so they struggled alot more. But players who just get certain concepts right away and have a natural knack for the game advance quicker, and can get to a higher level of skill than most anyone. Like me, sure I set goals, but most to all are easily achievable within days because my knack for the game takes me there. Talent also = consistancy. I mean, who AA's MAX 300 Heavy but can only pull an A on So Deep? (I've seen it) However, I'm really lazy right now and if you'd like to discuss this, hit me up on AIM at Feared OG
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Marq(uistadorous)
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| 46. Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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have u AAed max300?? Im really close
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Alezay
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| 47. Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Countless times. I can AA all except PSMO.
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Marq(uistadorous)
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| 48. Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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I hate u...EVEN LEGEND OF MAX AND MAXX UNLIMITED!!!!!!!!!    O well...congadulations  ...List your AAAs
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Alezay
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| 49. Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Current List:
321 Stars Heavy
Abyss Heavy
B4U Heavy
Drop Out From NSMM
Paranoia
R3
Kick The Can (DDR EX. PS2)
5.1.1 Heavy
Freckles Heavy (Pssh, like wuht...)
Superstar Heavy
Sexy Planet (Oni Only Version)
Kind Lady Heavy (pssh)
20+ on Light & Standard combined
30 SDG's on Heavy
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FujiFlame
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| 50. Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| I'm with you Alezay; I started DDR exactly a year ago as of today, actually, and have progressed much more quickly than most people, placing me around your level on harder songs (except I can AA PSMO ). I'm one of those that had Sakura at 1.5 months, Max 300 at 2.5, etc. The only flaw I see for myself in this is I have had a harder time getting AAA's. None on heavy (though very low like 1 Gr on AM-3P, 3 on IRRE.), a few on Light and Standard...but I think it's the lack of time I spent playing those easier songs. It's kina funny coz my 10-12 footer scores tend to be far above average, yet I tend to be on the lower end of the scale for 9 and under = \ . I've always considered that I do have a natural talent for the game as well, and it definately helps in progression. That's one reason why people can manage things like that, Marquistadorous. However, nothing's to say that it can't be done with mere practice. |
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| 51. Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:24 am Post subject: |
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to the above poster asking how long I've been playing, well I've been at it for about a year and a half. I was into freestyle for about the first 6 months of it, but when I moved to orlando everyone there was into tech. My best friend Matt(300) helped me get to where I am now by pushing me to get better. for about the first 3 months of playing with him I was only "allowed" to play 10s in DDR, and I didn't use the bar because I was bad with it at the time. Basically I was 10 foot player who sucked at sorrow and easier songs, I could just drum my feet well.
We got ITG and I started playing it, and quickly realized that I couldn't keep playing no bar if I wanted to get decent without killing myself every time I played a song (85% on Disconnected Hyper expert is about as good as I ever got without the bar). Learning to use the bar took quite awhile, but once I got the hang of it I passed all the 12s and Pandemonium (I was among the first 5 or 6 people to do it, the second on the east coast I believe).
After I passed everything on ITG1 I went back to DDR and started going for AAAs because I was bored. I got about 25 of them I think...mostly 7s and 8s and a couple of 9s (afronova, paranoia rebirth, etc), and now that ITG2 is out I've been playing that. Currently the only song I've been unable to pass on my first try is bloodrush. My FA is only just now starting to get decent, and I don't really consider myself a very good player, especially since my best friend is about 10 times better than me.
That's about it for my completely offtopic rant, but I hope that answers your question about how long I've been playing and what I did to get where I'm at now. |
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Alezay
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| 52. Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| [ES] FujiFlame wrote: | | I'm with you Alezay; I started DDR exactly a year ago as of today, actually, and have progressed much more quickly than most people, placing me around your level on harder songs (except I can AA PSMO ). I'm one of those that had Sakura at 1.5 months, Max 300 at 2.5, etc. The only flaw I see for myself in this is I have had a harder time getting AAA's. None on heavy (though very low like 1 Gr on AM-3P, 3 on IRRE.), a few on Light and Standard...but I think it's the lack of time I spent playing those easier songs. It's kina funny coz my 10-12 footer scores tend to be far above average, yet I tend to be on the lower end of the scale for 9 and under = \ . I've always considered that I do have a natural talent for the game as well, and it definately helps in progression. That's one reason why people can manage things like that, Marquistadorous. However, nothing's to say that it can't be done with mere practice. |
I don't know why I can't AA PSMO. I just can't do it. Maybe I'm going too fast for the end runs. It seems to me that we are really close in skill level Fugi. What you described is basically me as well. I excel in harder stuff, and usually 98 99 10s and 9's. But nothing like an SDE or less than 20 Ex. I'll get up there though. I always wondered why I own Dalton at Determinator Ex...
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| 53. Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I've been playing DDR for at least four years now, almost five. O: I've been playing ITG like one year, I guess.
I have only tried PSMO once and I gave up when the hell runs came and let my full life bar die out. /me shrugs. Meh. I'll try it when I'm not so tired from ITG2 whoring.
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| 54. Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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I've been playing DDR for about 7 months, and now I can finally pass all songs except PSMO.
I used to think that Max 300 was absolutely impossible, but now It can do it on command (As can many). I just needed to practice it, that's all.
And now that I'm getting into ITG, I'm working towards the 11's and 12's. I'm sure that I'll pass them eventually, it just will take time to develope more stanima. Which requires practice.
Sure, you ned some talent to be able to understand the game, but practice is where you get stronger and better.
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| 55. Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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i got 88% on HOTN no bar
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| 56. Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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When did this become the Accomplishments on HotN thread? You got 88% no bar, would you like a cookie?
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| 57. Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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you damn right
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Alezay
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| 58. Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:48 am Post subject: |
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XD. Here ya go! ::Virtual Poke'Cookie springs from Alezay's PC and zaps to BeyondDark's PC::
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| 59. Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:07 am Post subject: |
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holy frick!!! that's a good cookie.
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