DDR Freak obtains amended complaint document

paraparafreak · Trick Member Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Location: Jacksonville

TO MUCH TO READ

but i really dont care long as im able to still play ddr
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Alezay · Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject:

JTchinoy · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: My car

Tsuri · Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:05 pm Post subject:

Because they are trying to bore these companies into a settlement with improper use of grammar? lol

Synaesthesia · Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:53 pm Post subject:

JTchinoy · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: My car

Yeah, that makes sense. But regardless, it's so wordy and repetitive and it hurts to read the same statement repeated in 5 consecutive sentences.
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kamron_1 · Trick Member Joined: 15 Nov 2002 Location: YAY AREA

at this point, i'm just curious what will happen to ITG for PS2

does anyone think Konami can stretch their patents enough to include ITG for PS2?
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject:

Well... given that the lawsuit DOES mention RedOctane for patent infringement for distributing ITG PS2, I'd say it does. What does this mean? Worst-case scenario, no more ITG PS2 distributed, so get your copies while you can. You won't have to offer up your game for destruction or anything. Now, for the more likely scenario, all parties involved reach a settlement. Roxor keeps making all their ITG, RO keeps distributing ITG home versions, MC keeps making sucky dance games (if they want to), and for every game/machine sold, Konami gets a nice royalty check. Everyone's happy.

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Hezkezl · Trick Member Joined: 07 Jun 2002

Personally, I've got no sympathy for Konami. They announced the end of any new future DDR arcade mixes. Because you did that, when everybody beat your crappy game, they started wanting more, harder songs, and Roxor provides them. Personally, I love ITG. Everything on DDR is old, and easy. ITG is new, and harder.

I'm not saying that Konami is wrong in this lawsuit (the only thing I can see them winning, is having to retrofit old cabinets with ITG. Everything else is complete bull), but they should have seen it coming.

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Synaesthesia · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:51 pm Post subject:

Generally, a "hiatus" can be described as an interruption (or break/gap/split/whatever synonym) in some form of continuity, be it related to space, time, or, in this case, frequency. "Hiatus" has also taken the definition of "an extended vacation," should you ever hear that perhaps a co-worker is on hiatus. To say that the arcade division is on hiatus is to say that they are taking an extended break from creating a new arcade game, and it is generally understood that this break is indefinite (i.e., they may never return, or they may return tomorrow).
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Wolfman Jake · Trick Member Joined: 13 Sep 2002

Ok, I may not have seen this info around before, but I'll report it now just in case it is news. Apparantly, ITG2 is NOT just available in dedicated cabinets. Roxor went ahead and sold those $1K upgrade kits for DDR cabinets that were preivously Frankensteined into ITG1 and those $3K ITG2 Boxors for DDR cabinents that hadn't before been gutted for ITG. Also, these alternatives to the ITG2 dedicated cabinet DO NOT include "Pump It Up" as part of the title on the marquee or on the title screen. Interesting, no? That, I believe, puts to rest and speculation that ITG is now a part of the Pump It Up series, or that Andamiro has anything more to do with ITG and Roxor than simply providing Roxor with a cabinet for ITG2. Yes, that means Andamiro, as many people tried to explain before, really isn't backing Roxor legally, financially, or creatively.

I find this to be a rather foolish decision on Roxor's part. If I were facing a big lawsuit, one that I very well could lose if it went to court, I think I would be treading very lightly. Even if Konami and Roxor settle, Konami could ask for a LOT more blood from Roxor for continuing to infringe on Konami's DDR technology patents with ITG2 Boxors, etc. I seriously wonder about the legal team Roxor has on retainer.
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Synaesthesia · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject:

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Synaesthesia · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject:

AFAIK the deadline got re-scheduled because the complaint was re-submitted. I don't know the various kinds of responses that can be made; my guess is that if you can respond "guilty" while already working out a settlement, that's what Roxor will do (guilty as in "everything in that lawsuit is correct"). Then again, their legal maneuvers leave a lot of the outside world perplexed. Maybe it's the kind of situation where it makes sense in their heads because they're thinking in terms of something we're not.

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