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CubsWoo
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40.  Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| snickers1127 wrote: | | I'm POSITIVE testers were aware of the load times (how could you not be?), but Roxor was unable to come up with a fix without MASSIVE delays to the release (i.e. 2-3 months or more). |
If they weren't going to fix it, they could have at least done something to cover them up (animation, random color changes, SOMETHING.) Slow load times, especially when there's so little to actually load, seems like a major flaw in the coding to me. |
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| 41. Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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The load times are fine. Be glad that they at least did what DDR didn't and put in an unlock all songs and mods code.
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| 42. Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| Wintermute wrote: |
That long loading thing? Plus for dancers, minus for controller-players.
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I see this a lot.
This is piss-poor reasoning, I'm sorry.
Whenever I play ITG I usually don't do straight rounds of difficult songs. I play a good variety of difficulties that don't kill my stamina, and I'm going to assume that a lot of players are similar. Thus there is no need for me to rest and get bored while waiting for the game to load.
In addition, if I was doing a hard set and I wanted to rest, I would just sit down for a couple minutes. 10 seconds is hardly going to put me at full stamina and I shouldn't plan my breaks to compensate for the loading times. If anything it'll just screw up my monentum. Besides, to take a break after a really hard song I usually just play a song that's slow and easier so I don't lose momentum but can have a nice break in the process. In addition, there is no excuse for the long loading between menu screens.
Saying that long loading is a good thing is just plain stupid. You people need to accept that these loading times are not to be encouraged at all and need to be fixed. Chances are with all the criticism about it, if ITG2 ever sees a CS release they will reduce the loading time, this is a good thing.
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| 43. Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| user wrote: | | The load times are fine. Be glad that they at least did what DDR didn't and put in an unlock all songs and mods code. |
Flawed logic.
First off, Ultramix has an unlock-all code. It was released shortly before the release of UM2.
The ITG code wasn't "released". It was discovered by people trying to extract data for other stuff. So, if they hadn't been doing that, your point about Roxor being better than Konami for releasing an unlock code would not stand. Since the discovery was a semi-random event, they didn't actually release it, which means they're in the same boat.
UM2 probably has an unlock code (since UM1 did) but nobody has discovered it yet. I suspect it'll be revealed in a month or two, since the UM3 release is pending.
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| 44. Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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I believe the Konami code or the "Contra" code was the code that unlocks both UM1 and UM2.
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| 45. Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| St00pidBaka // BluR wrote: | | I believe the Konami code or the "Contra" code was the code that unlocks both UM1 and UM2. |
It was the Konami code (in Controller port 4) in UM1.
That was one of the first things people did when UM2 came out, and as expected, it didn't work.
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| 46. Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Gah, really? My friend unlocked all the songs with a code somehow, but I don't know he did it. I just assumed he did it with the Konami code like he did with UM1.
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| 47. Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Cutriss wrote: | | The load times are surprisingly long, but they don't bother everyone, |
Was the reason I didn't buy it. I absolutely cannot stand load times anymore, particularly not in a style of game whose main competition destroys them in this department.
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| 48. Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Ghetto Overlord wrote: | | Cutriss wrote: | | The load times are surprisingly long, but they don't bother everyone, |
Was the reason I didn't buy it. I absolutely cannot stand load times anymore, particularly not in a style of game whose main competition destroys them in this department. |
That is fucking overboard. |
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| 49. Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| [HENTAI] Reenee wrote: | | Ghetto Overlord wrote: | | Cutriss wrote: | | The load times are surprisingly long, but they don't bother everyone, |
Was the reason I didn't buy it. I absolutely cannot stand load times anymore, particularly not in a style of game whose main competition destroys them in this department. |
That is fucking overboard. |
I'm not going to go through a minute of loading screens every time I fail a song. How am I supposed to get any progress if I spend half an hour by simply flipping through menus?
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| 50. Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| You're badmouthing the game for the wrong reasons. |
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| 51. Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Ghetto Overlord wrote: |
I'm not going to go through a minute of loading screens every time I fail a song. How am I supposed to get any progress if I spend half an hour by simply flipping through menus? |
Maybe you should work on not failing songs in the first place. Or you could just play on Practice Mode.
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| 52. Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| It loads stepcharts for god's sake. If I pay for a 40 dollar game it better not have any bugs. Look at Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, it loads in-depth worlds in about the same time ITG loads arrows.... arrows. GTA is about 5-10 more than ITG. That's a problem in my eyes, sorry Roxxor you don't get my 40 bucks. |
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| 53. Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| 54. Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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See, THIS is the problem RO need to address for future games.
The loading times are annoying enough to discourage people from buying the game. Although this is not a substantial percentage, ITG needs every sale that it can get. Whether or not other people think this is a valid reason to not purchase doesn't matter, the potential buyer is the one that decides it in the end. In addition, with all the complaints, RO probably knows that if the loading times are just as bad in ITG2 people will just get pissed off and may lose a few more customers.
This is how the market works. People are dissatisfied with a product for whatever reason and thus the next batch tries to solve these problems. It's a good thing people are voicing their complaints for this.
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| 55. Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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load times, ill accept that
topgrade bug? i can avoid that
...but leaving out edit mode? cmon now 
im just hoping itll be in ITG2 when/if it comes out for PS2. |
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| 57. Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Cutriss wrote: | | user wrote: | | The load times are fine. Be glad that they at least did what DDR didn't and put in an unlock all songs and mods code. |
Flawed logic.
First off, Ultramix has an unlock-all code. It was released shortly before the release of UM2.
The ITG code wasn't "released". It was discovered by people trying to extract data for other stuff. So, if they hadn't been doing that, your point about Roxor being better than Konami for releasing an unlock code would not stand. Since the discovery was a semi-random event, they didn't actually release it, which means they're in the same boat.
UM2 probably has an unlock code (since UM1 did) but nobody has discovered it yet. I suspect it'll be revealed in a month or two, since the UM3 release is pending. |
I never said they released it. That's why they're called easter eggs. It sparkles upon entering for a reason. And I forgot UM even existed  but oh well. If I wanted to be cheap and back myself up I could say that 'Well, I was talking about PS2'  Anyways, the load times are NOT THAT BAD. 5 seconds to load something is definately bearable. I think people should get over it and appreciate the fact that we finally got something challenging on the PS2.
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| 59. Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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However, their difficult songs are fun.
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And YES load times affect this game dramatically. I have better things to do in that 10 seconds plus the 10 seconds from all the songs I play. Overall, I really enjoy DDR Extreme USA and the corner buttons don't affect me at all. If you put the average American at a table with DDr Extreme and ITG for PS2 on the table. They will pick up DDR Extreme because they actually know songs in it! We are only a pin prick in the market for these games, but we think Konami/RoXoR is only making the game to please us. They just can't do that which is why RoXoR added Novice mode. In my opinion ITG has only a couple of good songs which are the liscenses. O and for people complaining about J-Pop in DDR. Looks like ITG2 decided to have some of it for itself 
