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40. PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think it's alright to use speed mods, but I never use them.

If a person claims to have beaten a difficult song, but with using a speed mod to make it easier, I'd look down at that. I don't believe anybody has truely cleared a song until they beat it on 1x.

So if a person only played LoM on ex stage and only passed it on ex stage(not regular stage) then you would say that person hasn't truly beaten the song? erm.gif Same goes for Maxx U. on Max2 and Max300 on Max1....

I'm not too familiar with how extra stage works since it's rare for me to go to the arcade. Does extra stage have some of the regular settings changed? Does this include speed mods? Do those mods make the song harder or easier?

If it makes the song easier, than as I said, I would look down at that and not believe they have truely beaten the song.

If it makes the song obviously harder, than congrats.

Something to note: If the song is harder on extra stage, than please notice what i have put in bold. This will prevent an(/a little) argument if that's the case.
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speed mods are a crutch. if you cant read the arrows the way they were meant to be read, it just means you have to practice more. i really wish that konami would have had a system to deduct points or change ratings when mods are used, because any slow song on high speed suddenly makes it about 2 or 3 ft easier.

To sum up my feelings, read the above quote.
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41. PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think people should try to play on x1 but if u can do better with them then go ahead laugh.gif
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42. PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Torches wrote:
Smbu |L©| wrote:
Torches wrote:
I think it's alright to use speed mods, but I never use them.

If a person claims to have beaten a difficult song, but with using a speed mod to make it easier, I'd look down at that. I don't believe anybody has truely cleared a song until they beat it on 1x.

So if a person only played LoM on ex stage and only passed it on ex stage(not regular stage) then you would say that person hasn't truly beaten the song? erm.gif Same goes for Maxx U. on Max2 and Max300 on Max1....



its not just the 1.5 reverse, its the pressure mode that makes them hard. a mode not available in normal play.

(and in this case, speed mods are making it harder, as stated before me)
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43. PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah ... so anyway ...

I only use them if I am deciphering a song. And I don't use them until I've beaten the song at least.

It wouldn't feel right to me if I had beaten Bag on 2X, or 3X, or whatever ... it was more fun -- as well as accomplishing -- to beat it on 1X first, then begin to figure it out.

The same goes for songs like Leading Cyber, My Summer Love, and all those other ones. It just feels better to have beaten them. PAing them and figuring them out by spreading the arrows out can come later.
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44. PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, my first thought when I saw that topic was, "I liked the second movie better, and I can't wait for X3 to come out."
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45. PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I waz jus wondering about the my summer love thing, it was the first cata i passed, but I really didn't consider it a cata because i put it on 2x so I kinda felt like a cheat, you know, but I guess you could consider it using ur resorces. When I am better at doing it on normal speed I will consider it a cata, but for now i don't think so. I also find it really useful when i am practicing a dance on training mode if it is way too hard i slow the speed down to like 3 and then put it on like 2x or 3x. it really helps. tongue.gif
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46. PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i use them for pa perpose..
and for slow song like orion or MSL i use BOOST..
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47. PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

QuEeNcHrIsTiNe13 wrote:
I waz jus wondering about the my summer love thing, it was the first cata i passed, but I really didn't consider it a cata because i put it on 2x so I kinda felt like a cheat, you know, but I guess you could consider it using ur resorces. When I am better at doing it on normal speed I will consider it a cata, but for now i don't think so. I also find it really useful when i am practicing a dance on training mode if it is way too hard i slow the speed down to like 3 and then put it on like 2x or 3x. it really helps. tongue.gif
There are alot of 9's that I can only do on 1.5 but I don't consider them as catas i've passed...thats gonna have to wait till I can do them on 1x
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48. PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only song ive ever done with speed mods was max 300. I put it on heavy, flat, 8x, reverse, and auto-fail off. I only did it to see what i would some day amount to. It was quite scary.
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49. PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speed mods are awesome. Just the other I finally tried Afronova on 1.5x speed and it definately helped increase my PA. Normally my great count on that song is somewhere in the 20's, but with 1.5x I was able to get 12 greats on it. biggrin.gif Woot go speed mods. E13.gif
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50. PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smbu |L©| wrote:
Speed mods are awesome. Just the other I finally tried Afronova on 1.5x speed and it definately helped increase my PA. Normally my great count on that song is somewhere in the 20's, but with 1.5x I was able to get 12 greats on it. biggrin.gif Woot go speed mods. E13.gif


One of the main reasons I like speed mods and use Solo. E1.gif
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51. PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never understood how Solo made things easier, I donno I've used it once so I can't really judge.

I use 1.5x, but only after I've beat the song on 1x. If the person i'm playing with picks like MaxX or Max 300, i'll stick it one 1.5x Sure the pressure isn't there and it's not going down, but I still get some of the effect of when I first beat them. Oh well, in all the tournments I've been in, they don't allow mods, so I usually practice on 1x.
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52. PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It helps you sight-read as your playing like blue being 1/4, red being 1/8 etc..which is why I use it. E1.gif
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53. PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never look down at anybody for playing with a modified speed, it helps you to read the arrows and it's natural for those who want to improve their skills with that one song. If you need to play a song with a modified speed, I have no objection to it. Practice makes perfect.
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54. PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DDR_Freakaholic wrote:
Smbu |L©| wrote:
Speed mods are awesome. Just the other I finally tried Afronova on 1.5x speed and it definately helped increase my PA. Normally my great count on that song is somewhere in the 20's, but with 1.5x I was able to get 12 greats on it. biggrin.gif Woot go speed mods. E13.gif


One of the main reasons I like speed mods and use Solo. E1.gif
Solo? ACK disturb.gif
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55. PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tsunami Forever wrote:
DDR_Freakaholic wrote:
Smbu |L©| wrote:
Speed mods are awesome. Just the other I finally tried Afronova on 1.5x speed and it definately helped increase my PA. Normally my great count on that song is somewhere in the 20's, but with 1.5x I was able to get 12 greats on it. biggrin.gif Woot go speed mods. E13.gif


One of the main reasons I like speed mods and use Solo. E1.gif
Solo? ACK disturb.gif

Well I never use solo, but I have nothing against it. I used to use it along time ago when Max1 first came out, but I stopped using it shortly after Max2 came out. It doesn't really help or hurt me. It just looks makes the arrows look weird now to me, because I don't use it anymore.
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56. PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I used to use it to....

Now I look back on those days and wish someone would have hit me in the face with a large brick frown.gif
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57. PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 9:08 pm    Post subject: Re: X1.5...X2...X3, your thoughts? Reply with quote

i'm always playing on x1.5...
ah..speed mods E15.gif
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58. PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: X1.5...X2...X3, your thoughts? Reply with quote

Bonnietta wrote:
i'm always playing on x1.5...
ah..speed mods E15.gif


Yeah, gotta love them! biggrin.gif
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59. PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They make almost every song alot easier, so speed mods = cheating. Same with solo mode. Regardless of what your reasons are for using them, you're usually not using them to make it harder, right?

When i use a speed mod (which is very rare) my reasons are to make it easier for me, and i know no matter how nuch better i do with them, it doesn't really count. If i AA a song with a speed mod and/or solo, i don't consider it a 'real' AA until i've done it normally. E1.gif

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