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Daikenkai (oni) and paranoia evolution
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20. PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rancid: How can you say KCET is the toughest out of that pack? That's the easiest Paranoia EVAR!!! It should probably be like a 7 maybe, or an easy 8. Dirty Mix is the one that always screwed me up on the original para bros. course. Sometimes I would pass that song and sometimes i would fail, but if I passed the song I would finish the rest of the course pretty easily.
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Yeah, I think daikenkai oni should probably be a 9. It's kind of a tough song, although once you get used to it, its not too bad. Still harder than some other 9's though.

Daikenkai oni doubles is definately a 9(possibly 10). Really tough and tiring song to do. Definately harder than some 10's (e.g. Max300, genom screams, possibly para survivor)


In no way is Daikenkai oni harder than max300 or paranoia survivor. I can C, sometimes B daikenkai and then have to give the rest of the songs to a friend so i can rest. Daikenkai oni, i can almost AA.
Tries on Max300 before passing: about 25
Daikenkai oni: first try
Paranoia Survivor: 6 times

Daikenkai oni should be a 9 though, its a stamina killer. Paranoia evolution shouldn't be a 9, just a hard 8.
To rest the debate, Paranoia KCET used to be an 8 on USA mix and on DDR home version(the very first american game). Somehow it grew to a 9 rating...

Ummmm.....you did notice that i said Daikenkai oni DOUBLES is harder than those other songs on Doubles. Definately not on singles, but on doubles, hell yeah it is. On singles I said daikenkai oni maybe deserves a 9 rating. On doubles it already has a 9 rating and probably deserves a 10, since it is harder than some other so called 10's on doubles.(max300, genom screams and para survivor)

and whats that you say you can barely C sometimes B daikenkai on heavy singles, yet you can almost AA daikenkai oni singles? That's pretty weird, since I think the oni steps are harder than the heavy steps. My best on the heavy steps is I think 18 greats and my best on the oni steps is 29 greats. Both FC/AA's.
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21. PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a day where I did all of the paranoias out of the oni, just to see the grades.

Paranoia 180 - D
Paranoia Dirty - C
Paranoia Clean - C
Paranoia Evolution - B
Paranoia Rebirth - A

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22. PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phrekwenci wrote:
There was a day where I did all of the paranoias out of the oni, just to see the grades.

Paranoia 180 - D
Paranoia Dirty - C
Paranoia Clean - C
Paranoia Evolution - B
Paranoia Rebirth - A

Call me Aionarap. Do I suck or am I good?


I did the same thing Phrek and here were my results:

Paranoia 180 - AA (SDG)
Paranoia Dirty - AA (15)
Paranoia Clean - AA (5)
Paranoia Evolution - AA (18)
Paranoia Rebirth - AA (23)

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23. PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is So Deep a Cata?
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24. PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why is So Deep a Cata?

Because its a 9 foot song. IMO that's exactly where it needs to be. Harder than 8 footers, but not hard enough to be considered a 10.
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25. PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 10:33 am    Post subject: Re: Daikenkai and PE Reply with quote

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Seriously, theyre the true level 8 songs. Along with Waka LAka, DXY, and MAXX UNLIMITED (trick), they should stay the way they are. PAranoia Evoultion is just fast, and thats the reason people are bragging its hard. If it was less BPM, then people wouldnt brag. And Daikenkai (oni) is like playing a fast song on shuffle, its oretty much easy but full comboing it can be difficult.


I disagree.

MaxX Unlimited should be a 9 on standard. I can FC LoM standard(a 9-foot standard song) with no problem, but I can't even pass MaxX Unlimited on standard(an 8 foot standard song).

On topic: I played Paranoia Evolution today and it should be an 8.
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26. PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also agree that if LOM standard can be a 9 that Maxx Unlimited standard should be a 9 also. When I played Maxx Unlimited on standard for my first time I totally messed up and got a A on it with a couple of random misses. LOM on standard I AA'ed my first time playing it with a full combo.
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27. PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 11:25 am    Post subject: Re: Daikenkai and PE Reply with quote

Mark wrote:

MaxX Unlimited should be a 9 on standard. I can FC LoM standard(a 9-foot standard song) with no problem, but I can't even pass MaxX Unlimited on standard(an 8 foot standard song).


Hmmm, don't know about that, only problem with that song is the ending jumping part, and really isnt too difficult if you're fast enough. But still, I can think of a number of 8 footers that are harder then maxx standard. I actually think max 300 standard is harder then maxx because of the few 8th note runs it has (still too slow to do 8th runs on a 300+ bpm song =/)
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28. PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MR. Ziggy wrote:
Why is So Deep a Cata?


Tons of Chaos and a mixture of gallops and other crap put together. No breaks either, you better have the stamina if your gonna do it.
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29. PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Daikenkai and PE Reply with quote

Gunnery Sgt.Rythm&Police wrote:
PAranoia Evoultion is just fast, and thats the reason people are bragging its hard. If it was less BPM, then people wouldnt brag.


Well...yeah...duh... same thing applies to ANY song... if the song was Max200 instead of 300, do you think it would be a 10? No... of course not... BPM is part of the difficutly...
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